tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post116693469721710572..comments2024-03-11T07:26:04.670-05:00Comments on Posthuman Blues: Machttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11074004681516756703noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1167084277447593242006-12-25T16:04:00.000-06:002006-12-25T16:04:00.000-06:00Is McKenna in essence saying that we are the (part...Is McKenna in essence saying that we are the (partial) physical manifestation of a self that extends far beyond what we would consider 'self' to be, rather than dealing with an entity/entities that would be entirely separated from humans?<BR/><BR/>Given our species' fondness for inrospection, curiosity about others, and an inablilty not to meddle in the affairs of others, it might not be surprising to find the 'other' part of ourselves as having those same traits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166981910905262602006-12-24T11:38:00.000-06:002006-12-24T11:38:00.000-06:00More alarming might be the nature of the symbiosis...More alarming might be the nature of the symbiosis, if that was true.<BR/><BR/>What would we need and get from them?<BR/><BR/>What would they need and get from us?Carol Maltbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693212305194138330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166943441623422182006-12-24T00:57:00.000-06:002006-12-24T00:57:00.000-06:00WMB--I think you might be missing McKenna's point....WMB--<BR/><BR/>I think you might be missing McKenna's point. At least we can hope to *comprehend* an alien invasion, while reality might be far weirder.Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074004681516756703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166938010202968262006-12-23T23:26:00.000-06:002006-12-23T23:26:00.000-06:00Carol--Amen! ;-)Carol--<BR/><BR/>Amen! ;-)Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074004681516756703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166937903386950702006-12-23T23:25:00.000-06:002006-12-23T23:25:00.000-06:00In essence, they say the same thing.Yeah, but at l...<I>In essence, they say the same thing.</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, but at least Randle is willing to consider that UFOs (and occupants) might be real. I haven't read Clancy's book, but from everything I've read about it she seems convinced there's no real possibility of ET visitation, in which case her conclusions are, at best, biased.Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074004681516756703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166937805322935352006-12-23T23:23:00.000-06:002006-12-23T23:23:00.000-06:00I've always liked what Terence McKenna said about ...I've always liked what Terence McKenna said about that:<BR/><BR/><I>"We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which disguises itself as an extraterrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us." </I>Carol Maltbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693212305194138330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166937454612646492006-12-23T23:17:00.000-06:002006-12-23T23:17:00.000-06:00Mac:While I think highly of Randle's abduction boo...Mac:<BR/><BR/><I>While I think highly of Randle's abduction book, I'm not so sure about Clancy.</I><BR/><BR/>In essence, they say the same thing.<BR/><BR/>PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166936376970917962006-12-23T22:59:00.000-06:002006-12-23T22:59:00.000-06:00WMB--I find your "pre-PB" take on he abduction mys...WMB--<BR/><BR/>I find your "pre-PB" take on he abduction mystery both sound and plausible. It could very well be the correct answer -- although good luck getting an "alien" to admit it!Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074004681516756703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166936271970420392006-12-23T22:57:00.000-06:002006-12-23T22:57:00.000-06:00Paul--It always amazes me that abductionologists l...Paul--<BR/><BR/><I>It always amazes me that abductionologists like Hopkins and Jacobs totally ignore the historical pattern of these experiences</I><BR/><BR/>For Hopkins et al, the aliens came here in the 1940s and have been busily pursuing their hybridization program ever since. While I think there might indeed be a genetic component to the experience, I'm not about to start shouting "Invasion!" as Jacobs does in "The Threat."<BR/><BR/>Whatever the UFO intelligence is -- indeed, if there even is one - then it's much more abiding and mysterious than an interstellar task-force. At the very least, they (or it) is extraordinarily patient and seems to have deep roots in our species' history.<BR/><BR/>(While I think highly of Randle's abduction book, I'm not so sure about Clancy.)Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074004681516756703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147219.post-1166935400398410032006-12-23T22:43:00.000-06:002006-12-23T22:43:00.000-06:00Mac:It always amazes me that abductionologists lik...Mac:<BR/><BR/>It always amazes me that abductionologists like Hopkins and Jacobs totally ignore the historical pattern of these experiences, and the shifting nature of how it manifests itself, and what it might. Frankly, Susan Clancy had a better grasp of it, from the skeptical side (and Kevin Randle, Russ Estes, and William Cone before her), and Nick, Greg and you from the paranormal perspective.<BR/><BR/>PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com