Thursday, June 23, 2005





I've added a photo to my post arguing for a terrestrial explanation for the "alien autopsy" (AA). The prevailing argument against progeria (a genetic disorder) as the explanation for the appearance of the being in the AA footage is that the resemblance is superficial, and that known progeria victims exhibit signs of severe premature aging not readily seen in the AA. I would counter that classic progeria symptoms, in particular an aged aspect, are indeed present and that the specter of progeria can't be dismissed as readily as some AA commentators assume.

28 comments:

W.M. Bear said...

I'm presenting these views merely as reactions just to what you've posted so far. There also looks to be possibly a vaginal slit in the crotch area, supporting the idea that this is a human female experimental victim, as you previously suggested. At any rate, the more I look at the stills you've posted, the more I'm convinced that there is a real dead person lying there on the operating table and not some plastic simulacrum. I also think that the explanation that the military engaged in some "black ops" disinfo hinting at the reality of crashed UFOs and alien bodies TO SERVE AS A COVER FOR THIS KIND OF EXPERIMENTATION also makes a lot of sense. BTW, it may well be that cell damage from radiation exposure effaced some of the signs of progenia and, frankly, I agree that the face DOES seem to show signs of aging. One problem with this photo, though. Why is one of the autopsists wearing a radiation suit and the other not? Possible answer -- The doc in the surgical mask is keeping his distance and DIRECTING the guy in the radiation suit as to where to cut, what to remove from the body, etc.

Mac said...

The guy in the facemask (as opposed to a suit) is behind a window. And if you watch the footage in it's entirety, you see a microphone hanging from the ceiling, suspended above the operating table. So I think you're right: The guy in the mask is either directing the dissection or documenting it.

(And yes, the being is female.)

There's little doubt the black-ops world has used the UFOs phenomenon as a cover for secret project. Personally, I think the Bob Lazar story was an attempt to nullify interest in Area 51.

Dante Rosati said...

oi! Isn't this a little like arguing about what color shoes Elvis is wearing when the aliens bring him back?

I mean, if the whole film is a hoax, then it silly to waste time on progeria vs. aliens speculation, n'est pas?

So far, you are ignoring the fact that A) reviews of the film by MDs and pathologists all agree that it is bull. B) progeria patients do not have 6 fingers.

You have not provided a single reference concerning points A and B to support your contentions.

http://web2.iadfw.net/uthman/rants/on_alien_autopsy.html

http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/a1999/mar/c2.htm

http://www.csicop.org/si/9601/autopsy.html

W.M. Bear said...

Also, how likely is it that an alien species would resemble human beings THIS CLOSELY? So, either the film is a total hoax or the body is that of a (sadly) deformed human being.

A further argument against its being a hoax: The time delay between when the film was made (evidently sometime between the late 40s and early 60s) and when it was "released" or leaked (mid 80s?) argues against the hoax theory. Why would hoaxers sit on something like this for twenty-odd years? Aren't they supposed to be doing it for the publicity? Ergo....

Mac said...

Question: Where are these hoaxers? Hoaxers love to say "gotcha!" It's been 10 years since this film entered the collective psyche and we're still largely clueless. Virtually no money is left to be made. Why not come forward and triumphantly say "*I* did it!"

Mac said...

So far, you are ignoring the fact that A) reviews of the film by MDs and pathologists all agree that it is bull.

That's simply not true. I'm not "ignoring" it. The truth is that medical commentators are divided. Sure, there are critics. But they inevitably assume they're watching the dissection of an *alien*, as they've been told. So naturally the AA has taken flak.

B) progeria patients do not have 6 fingers.

Some do. I've already told you: Redfern cites a pathologist in his book who exlains a genetic link between polydactyly and progeria.

RJU said...

Here is a possibility you have not considered- maybe people with "progeria" are really aliens in our midst hiding behind this facade?

RJU said...

More possibilities- progeria is the result of alien rape, progeria is the expression of alien genes that exist in the human gene pool from past human/alien interaction...

Mac said...

RJU,

I really, really doubt it. But progeria's resemblance to "Gray" aliens is striking.

Dante Rosati said...

mac-

1)i provided three links to pages with reviews by qualified medical people saying the AA film is bull. Lets see at least one link to a review by a similarly qualified individual saying it looks real.

2)Whenever I go Googling to check a reference in a UFO article, and the only things that come up are other UFO pages, I go "oh-oh- bad sign". So I do not accept an unnamed reference from
Redfern's book that progeria patients can have 6 fingers. He's also (on UFO updates) quoting some doctor from the late 19th c saying that a progeria patient had no nipples or something. If thats the only reference he can find, thats pretty sad. If modern medicine has no record of progeria with polydactyly or no nips, then those claims look like bull too. Webpage reference please?

Mac said...

A 2-second Google search found this site re. polydactyly and its tendency to manifest in the context of genetic syndromes. This is exactly what Nick's medical source says in his book.

http://www.hmc.psu.edu/healthinfo/pq/poly.htm

Dante Rosati said...

from the page:

Polydactyly and syndactyly are also possible outcomes of a large number of rare inherited and developmental disorders. One or both of them can be present in more than 100 different disorders where they are minor features compared to other characteristics of these diseases.

and is progeria one of them?

Dante Rosati said...

I found one page that mentions six fingers in connection with progeria:

http://www.ucsf.edu/~wabl/Reason_of_Age.htm

Mac said...

It's not the only page.

RJU said...

>>"I really, really doubt it"

--> I really, really doubt it too. I was really just joking.

Mac said...

I was really just joking.

I thought maybe you were testing me... :-)

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